tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post5210730327266692902..comments2023-10-12T10:09:30.431-04:00Comments on Kingdom Advancing: Should We Eat Meat?Kingdom Advancerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02599920276578327720noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post-81039998486186465912012-03-20T22:02:13.893-04:002012-03-20T22:02:13.893-04:00this is where actual meaning is lost in interpreta...this is where actual meaning is lost in interpretation based on ones own perception instead of God's; when God granted that man eat meat after the flood because man was already living of a sinful nature does this then mean we should overlook the very curse which makes us unclean which is the eating of meat? Should we then live in that sinful nature as God probably hopes we do not or should we rather turn from that wicked way and build up the will power to keep ourselves clean? the argument presented above regarding the eating of meat is comparable to a parent telling a child not to hit a dog as it will bite him in defence, the chikd persists and eventually says 'welll if u not going to listen then go ahead and hit the dog so that u will then learn for yourself'....we all know the outcome of that situation<br /><br />The next argument everyone completely gives a blind eye to...'thou shalt not kill', in this commandment it is not said thou shalt not kill man, it says thou shalt not kill, therefore killling of animals thou dhalt not do, but of course the way of the ones who eat meat is just always the same as the response here would be the quotations above regarding what goes into yr mouth been not clean, here jesus spoke knowing that there was a system of what should be eaten (clean as opposed to unclean) therefore if u follow his commands even if not moving to the extent of becoming vegan and have to eat meat then this verse does not make it 'ok' to eat pig which eats of the dirt as well as human flesh, shell fish and catfish etc (which also eat the dirt of the ground) , instead it confirms that if we eat right THEN nothing that enters our mouth will make us unclean, otherwise lets all take drugs and alcohol as it shall not make us unclean...<br /><br />The bible is said to be the word of God and yet man so easily tarnishes it with his own perception used only to give reason for doing wrong and continuing to do so<br /><br />The bible also in isaiah speaks of a time when after judgement all will be as in inning where animals and humanity will walk side by side again, maybe this is the path we should be leading our children on rather than spilling more and more blood of animals of which one day we have to befriend...mind u there are limited seats on that bus load to a new earth...i hope what i say is not taken in offence, i am merely voicing my own opinion as well which i hope will provide more clarity or rather the true reason in my understanding as to why we should not eat meat, if we were meant to be carnivores dont go to the butcher who does all the dirty work for u but attack an animal with yr teeth and claws kill it and then eat of it...sounds rather like vampirism to me but i guess thats just my perception...thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post-83820061716746550332009-08-20T09:51:05.773-04:002009-08-20T09:51:05.773-04:00More Bible verses to support your stand:
Not All M...More Bible verses to support your stand:<br /><a href="http://www.tipskey.com/health/not_all_meats_are_food.htm" rel="nofollow">Not All Meats Are Food</a>Ernienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post-82151978228749054762007-01-12T18:02:00.000-05:002007-01-12T18:02:00.000-05:00I tried to put different ones, but maybe I acciden...I tried to put different ones, but maybe I accidently missed one of your references or something.Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883196263628974118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post-28233595000368242082007-01-12T14:53:00.000-05:002007-01-12T14:53:00.000-05:00Thanks, Austin.
I didn't think of the story tha...Thanks, Austin. <br /><br />I didn't think of the story that Nathan told David. That's a good addition to the discussion, though, like in the case with Daniel, the point of the story didn't necessarily have to do directly with meat or animals. However, you can see that eating one of the man's many sheep would've been no big deal. But, not only was it plainly unjust to take the poor man's ewe, but it was cruel, too, because of how much the ewe was loved. <br /><br />P.S. Are the last two passages you listed the same as the ones I did, or are they different passages saying basically the same thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34421675.post-62198275097765295292007-01-11T09:55:00.000-05:002007-01-11T09:55:00.000-05:00You did a good job of summing up most of my belief...You did a good job of summing up most of my beliefs on this subject. I don't have anything to add, except a few interesting verses. <br /><br />It's interesting that you bring up pets. David clearly held an emotional attachment to pet-like animals, as we can see in this verse from 2 Samuel. Nathan was using it as a metaphor for what David had done, but David clearly believed the story and was touched by it:<br /><br /><b><br /> The LORD sent Nathan to David. When he came to him, he said, "There were two men in a certain town, one rich and the other poor. The rich man had a very large number of sheep and cattle, but the poor man had nothing except one little ewe lamb he had bought. He raised it, and it grew up with him and his children. It shared his food, drank from his cup and even slept in his arms. It was like a daughter to him. <br /> "Now a traveler came to the rich man, but the rich man refrained from taking one of his own sheep or cattle to prepare a meal for the traveler who had come to him. Instead, he took the ewe lamb that belonged to the poor man and prepared it for the one who had come to him." <br /><br /> David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, "As surely as the LORD lives, the man who did this deserves to die! He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity."<br /></b><br /><br />Actually, my reaction to the story the first time I heard it was almost the same as David's, even though I hadn't yet read David's reaaction. <br /><br />Notice that the poor man considered his little ewe lamb to be "like a daughter to him," thereby humanizing it - making it more like us. <br /><br />Now, about what we can eat:<br /><br /><b><br />" Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.' " <br /><br /> After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")<br /></b><br /><br />Here's another interesting one:<br /><br /><b><br />The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him.<br /></b>Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883196263628974118noreply@blogger.com