Monday, October 02, 2006

Judeo-Christianity's and Saivism's Views of God

Read the "P.S." on Defending a Creator, Part 3 before reading this.

Sorry KA, I should have said "oldest documented". Their writings and inscriptions are older, that's all. Unfortunatley though, that's the only tangible historical evidence we can bring to bear on the whole question, so perhaps the question should be "which God learnt to write first?" That another god might have beaten Yahweh to it would imply that He doesn't know everything though, so it's probably not the right question... --Ted

Okay, I think I can see what you're saying, and I think I can explain it. Adam didn't write Genesis. Abraham didn't write Genesis. Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible. If the pagan--not Jewish--religion of Saivism originated before God inspired Moses to write the history of the earth, I can see how it would be documented as older.

However, I wouldn't say that it is a "which God learned to write first" issue. This assumes that all gods are equal. This assumes that person number one is worshipping a real god, and person number two is worshipping a completely different, but equally real god.
The Bible says differently. The God of the Bible refers to Himself and is referred to as the "One True God," with all other gods being called "false gods." Some times these gods are demons, but oftentimes the worship and prayers to these gods fall on deaf ears--dead ears. False gods can almost always accredit their creation much to the efforts of pagans to turn their back on the real God.

~ Kingdom Advancer


Shygetz said...

Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible.

Moses wrote about how Moses died and how and where they buried Moses (Deut. 34)? That's a really neat trick.

Of course, analysis of the Pentateuch reveals that it was probably written by multiple authors at different times, and later redacted. But the story about Moses writing about his own death and burial is so much more interesting. You should stick with that one.

Kingdom Advancer said...

Good point, but I don't agree with your solution.
Correction: Moses wrote four books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) and most of the fifth book (Deuteronomy) in the Pentateuch.

Here's an outline of Deuteronomy:

I. Moses' first address--a review of God's guidance (chapters 1-4)
II. Moses' second address--a review of God's covenant (chapters 5-26)
III. Moses' third address--a call to covenant obedience-- (chapters 27-30)
IV. Moses' farewell and death (chapters 31-34)
["Kingdom of God," by: Francis Breisch, Jr.]

Moses clearly could've written the first 33 chapters of the book. To say that several authors must've written the Pentateuch because Moses could only have written 186 of 187 chapters is really jumping the gun. Of course somebody else must've written the very last chapter of the very last book of the Pentateuch since it was about Moses' death, but that is all you can determine.

My point still remains that--since Adam and his immediate children did not write Genesis or any other book of the Pentateuch--then documentation of the Saivism religion might appear older than the Judeo view of God.

Kingdom Advancer said...

I should add that the list goes on past Adam's children of the people who didn't write the Pentateuch: if, in fact [which I can't verify--I was taking the word of "Ted"] Saivism is documented as older than the Judeo view of God, then paganism must already have established itself--with its own new god.